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freekedoutfish · Aug 22, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

CREATE A NEW SKILL TO SUMMON TITANS OF VARIED ELEMENTS AND STRENGTHS.

[Small titans] two summoned at once, lvl18-20, 20 engy, 60 sec recharge.
[Medium titans] only one per time, lvl20-24, 25 energy, 60 sec recharge.
[Ooba titans] only one per time, lvl24-28, 30 energy, 120 sec recharg (and possibly break down into two small titans when killed or die).

Each would last a given time. Longer depending on size and lvl.

Only able to aquire after you complete Titan quets. Unlocked at skill trader. Adds insentive to complete.

Titan summoning skills would only be used by elementals, as they are born of earth, fire, ice and..... plant. So perfect combination, kinda.

Other professions would also get really powerfull titan skills when Titan quests are complete, but not summoning skills. Unlocked at skill trader. Also to add insentive to complete.

When unlocked, could add a new skill type to the skill list called "Titan summoning" and then list them underneath when bought.

Or when unlocked, they would go into the corrisponding element section when bought.

I.E:
Fire titans under fire.
Earth titans under earth.
Ice titans under water.
Not sure about plant!

Obviously these would be very powerfull skills as titans are very strong. Which is you can only unlock them after completing the relatively hard Titan quests.

As mentioned, it adds insentive to play them. As no one does.

The long recharge and energy demand I suggested, is justified because the titans would be so strong and you dont want an elemental being over-powered by summoning one every 20 seconds.

You would also need the other typical skills to heal them if need be, but to use titans would have big energy demands and energy management. They would maybes have side effects, like drainingg health when cast or slowing your attack speed or similar.

But its just an idea.

RTSFirebat · Aug 22, 2006, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Moved to Suggestion forum.

freekedoutfish · Aug 22, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Moved to Suggestion forum.

sorry ignore that! I didnt realise you had moved the entire thing.

Xx Invictus xX · Aug 29, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

itd be sweet for a elite fire skill

like a meteor doing damage as it falls from the sky... then turns into titan

Mr. G · Aug 29, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Meep - Could be easilly exploited - how about we just get a nice emote? Kill 1 titans and you can run around town burning if you want to?

Omega X · Aug 29, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46

I don't know about Titans, Emps maybe....but not Titans.

Apocrypha · Aug 29, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

And the PvP characters? gotta balance it out for them. An emote would be nice, summoning titan's is a bit much.

DeathandtheHealing · Aug 29, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

we already have necromancers

this would further inbalance the game
the developers want to stay way from this, why do you think they kill my nolani wnad *cry* let alone give u a special skill that lets u summon a great being lol

that slike saying fissure armor should make u invicible because it takes you hundreds of game hours to get

no.

curtman · Aug 29, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Necro deals with undead and is from Everquest. Rit is more is a shaman from wow. Summoners are in Tales of and FF. I am expecting a flame response and hate pms from ignorant GW fanboys now, who fail to realize every class in GW is a version of another game's, concerning the above statements. I just hope they spell correctly this time. Having implike summons that do ranged elemental damage and a melee like the ranger pets which do melee element damage, along with some skills which behave like the beast mastery ones, would work if balanced properly.

Touch Ranger imbalances the PVP game (any one doubting so should play some Kurzick side battles, luxons like to send 4-8 touchies), so adding elemental summons would not be a major imbalance. If ANet balanced this idea and lvl of the things, this would fit in either to the Rit as an elite skill for each element, or in a future release for a summoner or warlock class. An alternative Anet could do is change up the Ele's current 5 attributes, say change the attritbute to energy storage(increases energy and reduces duration of exhaustion), area of effect spells (metoer shower, firestorm, etc), focused spells(flare, lightning strike, obsidian flame, etc), elemental summoning(beastmastery type skills and a few summons limited to only one summon active and health degen on it, plus -1 E regen on the caster), and support spells (blind, knockdowns, frozen burst, slowdowns, wards, and such). Any way implemented, my W tank, nuker/airspiker, barrage R, Necro MM, or hit and run A could defeat it, I am not afraid of the change. MMs should not feel insecure, they have nothing to fear due to the fact nothing can replace a lvl 26-28 Flesh Golem and 9 fiends at your side.

There was actually a few similar topics:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3069509

Ian Savage, unless I am totally off on the name and I apologize if so, had a Summoner profession which does the summoning idea. There are also a couple of Warlock threads using demons instead of elementals which are similarly done as well. Someone posted something similar in one of the fix-the-ele threads also. Think I might add the ele change concept there as food for thought.

Any ways that is the take of a C++ programmer. As long as it is implemented right, it would be a breath of fresh air in the touch ranger infested atmosphere. It could even make Ritualists slightly useful in PVP.

Xx Invictus xX · Aug 29, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

How can you say Guild Wars characters are from previous games?

Warrior - Medieval Times, not from other games. From History

Necro - From people who practiced raising the dead and other evil crap. Not from other games.

I'm to lazy to go over everything cause I don't need to, for you to say these come from other games is just dumb. They are ideas based on History and stories.

About spelling and what not, what does attritbute mean? If you want to complain about spelling check yours. I don't rly kare bout mhine.

Apocrypha · Aug 29, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Quote:

Necro deals with undead and is from Everquest. Rit is more is a shaman from wow. Summoners are in Tales of and FF. I am expecting a flame response and hate pms from ignorant GW fanboys now, who fail to realize every class in GW is a version of another game's, concerning the above statements.

And everything from those games is a copy of another game which eventually goes from real life.

And who claimed they were unique to this game?

What you're suggesting is basically another class, for another expansion. Why modify all the current classes so they can do a few other things instead of adding another class which you could use as a secondary if you really wanted those things. Want to be a summoner Ele? make a S/E or E/S when the time comes, it's not here yet, don't make the ele into a summoner so we have E/N which summons minions and summons and let's lose fireballs everywhere.

Ian Savage · Aug 30, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Wow, i feel honored for the mention. Summoner is a common idea in RPGs, for a good solid 3 reasons.

1) It's Freaking Awesome
2) There are historical roots
3) They're relativly unique.

A summoner Prof would be great, but so would the idea of some kind of reward for the titan quests. either a title, or an emote, something to say--"Hey! I rock! I finished all the Titan Quests! Did I mention that I rock!"
Summoner profession is off topic here, but It's another good idea.

xiao1985 · Aug 30, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

sounds like warcraft... burning titan LOL

too overpowered but, let's make it that all your skills are disabled for 120 seconds...

Carl Butanananowski · Aug 30, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

ALL YOUR SKILLS DISABLED FOR 120 SECONDS?

that is FTL.

Dougal Kronik · Aug 30, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Instead of disabled - how about you use all your energy and have total exhaustion.

JustSomePigeon · Aug 30, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xx Invictus xX

How can you say Guild Wars characters are from previous games?

Warrior - Medieval Times, not from other games. From History

Necro - From people who practiced raising the dead and other evil crap. Not from other games.

I'm to lazy to go over everything cause I don't need to, for you to say these come from other games is just dumb. They are ideas based on History and stories.

About spelling and what not, what does attritbute mean? If you want to complain about spelling check yours. I don't rly kare bout mhine.

I think necromancer might be like the ones in diablo 2 since in Diablo 2 you can raise skeleton warriors and mages, also you can raise several types of golems (earth, steel, and flesh if i remember right.)

legion_rat · Aug 30, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustSomePigeon

I think necromancer might be like the ones in diablo 2 since in Diablo 2 you can raise skeleton warriors and mages, also you can raise several types of golems (earth, steel, and flesh if i remember right.)

you do.

Undead are cool and all but the whole looking like an emo thing is lame. Fix the necros!! I want to see a necro in old rotting robes like the smoke phantom and not with the lame hair cuts they have. Let em be bald at least instead of the punk look.

crap started ranting sorry, sleep depraved....er deprived.

~the Zzzzzzz Rat~

freekedoutfish · Aug 30, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Ok so the "thats just a stupid idea" was slightly harsh! But anyway!

As I said, my suggestion wasnt only that elementals would unlock a super powerfull titan skill once the titan quests were complete.

I suggested that the other processions would be rewarded with similar, strong abilities.

So the idea that elementals would be overpowered and unblanace the game is nonense. The other professions would have the choice to go complete the titan quests and unlock their own powerfull skills.

If they choose not to, as many people dont with the titan quests, then thats their choice.

I dunno what kind of skills those would be, but something which could match the power of a titan.

I did also write, or suggest huge resource demand and side effects from using Titans. Huge energy demand, huge recharge times, etc etc!

It wouldnt be a skill that you could use repeatadly, over and over again without it having a negative effect.

And I dont really think it would give anyone a huge advantage during PvE either. It would be for players who have completed the game and play in high level areas where lvl20-24 beasts are.

I would see it as more of a defensive skill. If your overwhelmed and need help, you summon a titan to take the dmg and act as a tank or a wall.

It would work as offensive too, but it would be a toss up between summoning a titan to do large damage but loose large energy and slow regen, or NUKE.

But we do need some kind of insentive for people to complete the titan quests because NO ONE does them!

And a title or an emote isnt enough to incourage that. You want something substantial.

Mr. G · Aug 30, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Savage

"Hey! I rock! I finished all the Titan Quests! Did I mention that I rock!"

ok how about you get a rock?

to ^
I think something liek and emote is enough, it'd make me happy - some uber skills that create a rift between players is almost never a good idea, a Title wouldnt do as well beacuse id overwrite it with a more impressive title striaght away - A minipet? Or Titan Armour?

legion_rat · Aug 30, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. G

ok how about you get a rock?

to ^
I think something liek and emote is enough, it'd make me happy - some uber skills that create a rift between players is almost never a good idea, a Title wouldnt do as well beacuse id overwrite it with a more impressive title striaght away - A minipet? Or Titan Armour?

If we wear it and die do we then break into two pieces and attack again as smaller versions of ourselves?

I think something more then XP would be nice for finishing the titan quests as they are harder to beat then the Lich or Shiro...or both together. A special weapon or armor for the mission would be nice. like with amulet of mist. get amulet of the titans.

~the "Remember the Titans" Rat~